We trade some thoughts regarding democracy, on the possibility of a non-vote or abstention being a vote or statement in itself, the fact that you are actually obligated to vote in places like Australia, and how democracy is supposed to be a tool for a civilized society and not the be all end all of such a society itself.

We have some dialogue on politics, in particular the difference between the often conflated notions of proactive immigration and open borders.

We talk about tertiary education, and how men are (wisely) opting out of it.

Rob starts off talking about the Father Tongue Hypothesis, in which children are more likely to take on their fathers' language than their mothers', which leads into a discussion about how sons and daughters take on the political leanings of their parents.

We talk about the sordid state of Star Trek, with ST: Enterprise the last series we can actually call good Trek, and we make the case that Trek is, in fact, dead, and can't be resurrected. We then close off with a discussion on the anti-woke Left, which is known to actually exist.

Rob starts off talking about the unfair treatment Peter III has had by historians as well as the undue praise of his wife the usurper Catherine II ("the Great"). We speak more about the inanity of "matriarchy theory" and how neither matriarchy or patriarchy was ever a thing like feminists and in turn, the tradcons claim respectively.

Vernon talks about Gad Saad whose has gone on to make clear his feelings about male genital mutilation, that is, how it is *not* equivalent to female genital mutilation and claim anybody who does rightly equate the two as "imbeciles". We react.

Today Rob talks about historical female mystics under the context that they were taken seriously into consideration in political life and most of them were active enough in politics, again contradicting the notion that women in history were the oppressed class who can do nothing.

Vernon also talks about his gripes with the concept of altruism, and we discuss the Victorian Fallacy which is Rob's work in progress book and the notion that the Victorian era was what it all seemed to be.

Rob wants to include this last bit because we often forget that he has to say it at the end of each video!

"As of February 2024 a warrant is outstanding for the arrest of Zoe McLellan
in relation to charges of kidnapping, child stealing and child custody
deprivation.

McLellan was reportedly residing in an apartment in River Ridge,
Louisiana in April 2021. McLellan has wealthy family in
Louisiana and may still be residing there.

Prior to disappearing McLellan was known to use the alias Sarah
Chandler.

Anyone with any relevant information should contact the Los Angeles
County District Attorney’s office."

In today's episode of The Goal Post Rob talks a bit about the case of Lord Lucan and the murder he was accused of committing but with pieces not adding up. We also talk about a list of women who were historic examples of women working alongside men that throw a wrench into both the feminist and tradcon notions of "Women were always stay at home moms and didn't have to do any work like the men did" and "Women were prevented from working due to male oppression" respectively. We speak a bit about draft policies in nations, in particular that of Israel in which women can check a "religious" status to become exempt from the draft whereas the men cannot, and how the lid is being blown off of it recently.

We apologize again for the delay in getting a new episode out - Rob was sick again last week after his vacation. Rob talks about Robert Heinlein and his uncanny declaration of what he called "the Crazy Years" but we tend to call "Clown World", we speak about people who speak of if not espouse Red Pill ideas without being Red Pillers (and often not without disparaging Red Pill in the same breath anyway) and we make clear once again that if you talk about Red Pill, you have to talk about us in the actual Men's Rights sphere, not PUA types who pretend to be Red Pill. V rants about Carl Benjamin ("Sargon of Akkad") and his tirade against men who rightly expect women to "bring something to the table" as well as his remark that the transactional element in relationships is a millenial phenomenon, which we respond and say that historically it never wasn't, and is not even undesirable. Rob talks about female supremacists and documenting their words on Wiki4Men.

When high-profile tradcons spout "just have children and as many as possible" even beyond one's own means, there is no way I'll let that slide, and there is no way they don't realize what the hell they're saying.

Even if marriage isn't riddled with all of its glaring problems, there is such a thing as irresponsible behavior committed under a marriage.

We're recording in the same time zone today! Rob talks about his time touring DC here in the states, then we briefly discuss the trend over the past few years of feminists sites dropping off and disappearing. A good sign, or should we not rest on our laurels yet? We warn about the impending alliance between traditional gynocentrists and feminists united against their manosphere boogeyman, and we critique "former MRAs" that are so on the basis of religion.

We address the often-lobbed accusation by tradgyn grifters that "Red Pill and the Men's Movement is just the male version of feminism", and we have point by point counterarguments. Listen, and be enlightened.

Back with another long overdue video in my interview series, this time with Lauren Brooks from HBR! Note - after this interview some of the audio problems from my own end are becoming evident which aren't as prominent as when I do Goal Post episodes for some reason, but I fully intend to rectify with new equipment in my next video.

1:08 SAHMs and oversensitive women
17:37 Our current political landscape
25:51 Female Accountability and the women's vote
31:00 Pearl vs grifter women
41:20 Romantic chivalry insanity
49:52 Trump and election talk
54:30 Gaza conflict and media manipulation
1:02:00 Manipulating the black community
1:11:00 George Floyd riots
1:25:00 Race collectivism
1:31:07 Lauren doesn't talk to most women?

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Has Vernon been giving his all in this show? He worries otherwise, and wants to be as active as he can on this show! Rob talks about some updates to the Zoe McLellan situation including allegedly policy-based censorship and restrictions by Wikipedia on the actress's article there. There have been shenanigans on "X Twitter" with women being triggered on "X Twitter" from Charlotte Proudman to Shoeonhead. Other subjects include the Stay At Home Mother Complex, we mention International Men's Day and how more will be done from AVFM in the future with it, and Vernon shows off a new game he recently got into.

Welcome to another one of my rambles. Blue Pillers and tradcon women (but I repeat myself) are cowards that pick on gynocentric PUAs and pretend that they are the direct reference points of the Red Pill and MGTOW spheres, while avoiding serious Red Pill representatives and advocates that are consistent with their life philosophy and want to explore possibilities awoken to upon discovering the Red Pill: a life away from gynocentric obligations, expectations, and conformity. Blue Pill "traditionalist" cowards know they will lose the argument against liberty, so they pretend the Red Pill is just "the men's version of radfem".

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Once again, we are back after a long break. Rob had a great time in India, and we talk about his time there. We also talk about the resounding No vote to a dubious constitutional amendment in Australia.

We also discuss how gynocentrism ends up backfiring, in this case with Hamas and the supposedly primarily female hostages. If the West pays attention when the women are in trouble, maybe that's who they'll target, assuming this is just what happened.

Also since Rob forgot at the end, Zoe McLellan still at large.

I'm back. It's been eleven long months but it's great to be back.

What better way to mark my return by ripping on a bunch of tradcons making absolute fools of themselves on Twitter/X advocating the reckless behavior that is not only jumping into marriage, but jumping into marriage with the full information that the state marriage and family court system could royally fuck them over! Enjoy the tradcons being exposed more so than ever.

Short episode today, as we are both tired folk. Rob came back from the New Zealand Menz Summit this year and talks about his New Zealand visit. We also mention the Lucy Letby conviction and possible retrial and the horde of defenders saying she didn't commit the infant murders, and a few other subjects!

In Episode 25 we talk about countering the common narrative that physical labor by men is the reason that civilization is what it is. Instead, we argue that man's drive to make things more convenient, in other words man's capacity to innovate and enable automation, is the real masculine driving force of civilization. We also talk about why men do these things (hint: it's not to impress and serve women!)

We also talk about some details about Zoe McLellan, an actress who has been wanted for a few years for kidnapping her son (his father has sole legal custody of the son) and would like to raise awareness. We mention that Rob has tried to include information on Wikipedia however that information kept getting taken down.

(Note from us at The Goal Post - Some problems with the recording today caused the audio, particularly on Rob's side, to be much rougher than usual. You can still hear and understand him but the quality is such that no amount of audio editing will really make it better, so the full audio is presented as is. Depsite this we hope you enjoy this episode for what it is)

Hold your judgments regarding the title folks - there is a context for this. In today's episode we talk about the question "Is Society F***ed" and try to come up with some answers. Lots to unpack here, we discuss the loose definition of "society" in this case whether it means the immediate community, the nation, "The West", or the world over; we talk about what exactly it means for society to be "F***ed" and who gives what kind of solutions and what motives, and a possible conclusion we entertain is that regarding societal collapse, there are no victims only volunteers, so therefore if society does collapse, it chose to (hence, Society Can F Itself) but it absolutely doesn't have to and isn't doomed to (hence, Or Not).

We also talk a bit about revisiting Gillette's shares after their early 2019 woke ad and how they've never realistically recovered from that, as well as Japan's problems as a society and how they very well are capable of F***ing themselves.

Today we talk about how we found that the SPLC had de-listed AVFM from their list of "male supremacist hate groups" practically because Rob is now the leader of AVFM, however we do mention what's taken its place. We get the Lauren Southern stuff out of the way because we've put it off for too long and talk about her and others who cry "woe is me" when they think about the consequences of their own activism. All this and more, tune in and enjoy!

We talk about women's suffrage, the vote in general in the political sense, some (like H. Pearl Davis) who opine that women shouldn't have the vote, and share our thoughts on that as well as our own opinion regarding that.

Robert talks a little about demographic collapse, as well as the notion of men and women "having it all" or "getting it all".

We confront the mentality that uses mixed and inconsistent definitions of 'the Patriarchy' and those who still insist that men's spaces aren't a real concept.

We are back on this new episode to discuss a perplexing yet sadly not too surprising phenomenon of men in disbelief that that their own (male) spaces have been invaded for a long time, women's ease of access to those spaces historically, and also Robert rattles through more feminist-established falsehoods and premises, some of which feminists have even admitted to being nonsense, and some which conservatives and even some other anti-feminists buy into.

In today's episode we talk primarily about the phenomenon of 'women only' places whether it is in transport, spaces like hotels, concerts and various others. We point out the irony in the fact that men have made possible their infrastructure and operation, and also that perhaps men should stop lending a hand to build things that are meant to exclude and unperson them as men. We speak on gynocentrists' unintentional(?) attempt to conflate femaleness with disability. We talk more about "What Men Do" and revisit examples we've spoken about and also some new ones. We give another reminder that mere anti-feminism is never enough; it is long past due that we graduate from only talking about feminism and move on to anti-gynocentrism across the board.

We talk in this episode about a recent profile piece made against Paul Elam by the SPLC accusing him of being a "male supremacist" and other unfounded claims, also a bit about the a certain list of words that are being watched for on a list that can put you in suspicion of being a violent incel or something to that effect. Robert has more things to say about casual misandry in this world.

Rob goes through some important facts that are essential for new MRAs to know, that may not come as a surprise to seasoned MRAs but may be surprising to anyone outside the movement that is listening. A standout is the historical fact that women did, in fact, work in the past in contrast to the "feminine role" expectation of many tradcons in which they practically laze about and parasite off of their men. Others include the oft-visited subject of prisons, disparity in grading equally performing boys and girls in schools (can you guess in which favor?) and more.

In Episode 16 we talk about how a school in Belgium (Koninklijke Atheeneum) forced the male students to stand while they females got to sit, and we draw comparisons to Australia's Brauer College (https://wiki4men.com/wiki/Brauer_College) as well as the oft-seen trope of men going on their knees/bowing before womankind.

We talk about the very existence of women's sports and whether sporting itself is meant to be a male realm or not, and ask the questions - are women in sports an intrusion into a male space altogether, are there women's sports worth watching for any reason, and why conservatives are so defensive of women's sports all of a sudden nowadays.

We discuss an academic paper that cites material from many in the men's movement including both of us. To that we say - thanks for the publicity!

We trade thoughts on environmentalism and talk about the professional complainers (e.g. Greta Thunberg) vs people who actually do something productive regarding it (https://wiki4men.com/wiki/Boyan_Slat). She gets the Nobel Peace Prize; He didn't.

We start off with a very brief mention of Esther Vilar, who was physically attacked back in the day for blowing the lid off of gynocentrism: https://avoiceformen.com/featured/heres-what-happened-to-esther-vilar-after-she-angered-feminists/ Thanks to Peter Wright for publishing the article.

We then spend a great deal of today's episode talking about the murder of a social justice warrior and we lead up into the subject of crime, corporal punishment, capital punishment (note: Vernon confuses the two at first) and the psychological implications of imprisonment, also related subjects such as feminists' desire to eliminate women's prisons.

Just a heads up, we plan on talking about the subject of transmaxxing in our next episode and get a guest on from that community to speak with!
https://wiki4men.com/wiki/Transmaxxing