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Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.

Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyAwlZ1kLg
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNHIxGAMn8

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Biggest takeaways so far
05:27 19th century: modernist rhetoric and “Art“ as an independent realm
08:02 Finding the purest of the fine arts
10:30 Changing the meaning of “culture“
12:12 Art as religion
19:57 Pre-modernists and Roman frog eyes
24:17 The Saint and Martyr Syndrom
27:29 “The descent of the artisan“
34:41 Architecture: art or craft…?
41:49 The term “disinterestedness“
45:00 The final consolidation of “Art“
48:47 Photography: was it ever a threat?
55:40 Modernism 1890-1930
1:06:18 The 1930´s & representational styles
1:09:00 Modernism as “anti-totalitarian“
1:14:05 Repeating the art vs craft division
1:19:25 Post-Modernism as an alternative?
1:22:51 A people without identity & a third system of the arts

This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Öde Nerdrum and Jikke Gruwel.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Dr. Nir Buras is a leading new traditional architect and urbanist, founder of the Classic Planning Institute, and author of The Art of Classic Planning. He designs towns, cities and buildings, and speaks about some of the most interesting developments in the world of architecture and planning and where we might find ourselves in the future.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Intro
01:30 Buras & the Classic Planning Institute (CPI)
04:43 Projects and subdivisions of CPI
09:02 CPI's partners, seminars and live events
11:00 Horseshit, conflict and modern city planning
15:07 Cars and modern city planning
19:01 Three scenarios for our cities
22:33 The "Golden Age" in all cultures
26:01 What is wrong with the modern city
37:46 A holistic vs problem solving method
48:20 Place making is memory-making
57:22 Can a city have cars in it?
1:06:43 Traffic in Rome, Rio de Janeiro and New York
1:10:23 Town and country
1:14:41 CPI and the Anacostia River Masterplan
1:24:45 The impact of using hands on the brain
1:29:35 An eight generations horizon
1:32:10 Olympic Games for handcraft
1:35:24 The Anacostia project and Paris' Île de la Cité
1:42:03 Daniel Burnham: “Make no small plans”
1:46:28 Burnham's six categories for town planning
1:51:55 The symbolism of where you place buildings
1:58:50 Getting cars off the streets
1: 01:42 The future of modernism is classical

This episode featured Dr. Nir Buras & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a photograph of the Anacostia Riverfront render design by Dr. Buras & The Classic Planning Institute.

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Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Jon White from @Crecganford and Sturla Ellingvåg from @VikingStories to discuss the nature of myths.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Thinking a-historically
03:33 From ritual to listening
08:48 Replacing pagan holidays and rituals
15:39 Changes in myths
22:26 Tactius' Germania, the Poetic Edda and the Kalevala
26:19 Sacred truths make stories last
33:14 Cut off from your traditions
39:28 Looking at history as a whole
44:17 A perfect product for corporate business?
48:36 Picking the shiny thing
52:32 Back to basic human stories
57:36 Participating in the story
1:02:58 Do what has worked before
1:05:46 Irony in eternal stories
1:07:18 Society after the cyclical disasters
1:13:18 Agriculture gives us cyclical myths
1:19:40 Recurring themes in myth

This episode featured Jon F. White, Jan-Ove Tuv & Sturla Ellingvåg and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Jon White has studied Indo-European mythology for more than thirty years, particularly focusing on cosmogony and creation myths. As an independent researcher and lecturer, he shares this knowledge on his YouTube-channel @Crecganford.
Mr. White visits Cave of Apelles to detail the major motifs or "mythologems" of the Indo-European mythological tradition and what they denote. Considering that the Indo-Europeans lived in the Pontic-Caspian steppes about 7000 years ago, how did their stories spread to ancient India, Persia, Rome or Norse Scandinavia - changing, yet still retaining their core?
Combining the study of myths with fields like linguistics, archeology and etymology Mr. White will unravel cross-cultural similarities in stories like The Cosmic Twins, Defeating the dragon, The cattle raiding myth and The wild hunt.
He will also share his ideas on how we best are to understand myths. Are they projections of the human psyche, the condensed ethos of a culture or symbolic manifestations of natural and cultural history?
More intriguing still: is the presence of myths and archetypal images particular to Homo sapiens or have they been transferred between human species?

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Intro
01:27 Who is Jon White?
04:21 Defining “myth"
11:57 The Indo-European creation myth and sacrifice of the cow
19:22 Who were the Indo-Europeans?
24:06 The academic study of myths
30:18 Cattle, three-headed monsters and Twins of creation
37:36 “Fame does not decay” - the magic of writing
41:00 Over 70 000 years of fighting the dragon
45:59 From cows to women - the problem of translation
50:27 The veracity of the poetic and prose Edda
56:27 The divine twins vs the creation twins
1:00:11 Defining “archetype”
1:04:31 What is NOT Indo-European?
1:06:25 Mythology and mindset
1:08:29 Inuit myths, and stars as protagonists
1:13:41 Ways of understanding myth
1:16:51 Polytheist ..

What happened in the cultural life in 19th century France that lead to the rise of avant-garde art in America? Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Michael Pearce to review his book Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde.

The book is available here:
https://www.cambridgescholars.com/product/978-1-5275-9411-1

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00:00 "Bohemian" and irresponsible?
03:16 The origin of "Bohemian"
06:47 Courbet - an old-master "modernist"
09:10 Courbet's loyalty to the time
15:48 Science and industrialization killed poetry
18:40 Proudhon, and the marriage of art and socialism
23:12 Courbet's attack on classical values
29:33 Victor Hugo: the sublime, sensual and sentimental
36:15 A Bohemian, ludicrous way of dying
39:36 Theophile Gautier's l'Art pour l'Art, psychedelics, spiritism and theosophy
42:47 Zola: modernist or classical?
48:26 Manet, the father of avant-garde modern art
54:10 Zola's "hour of demolition"
1:00:40 The Hippie movement
1:03:51 How to be a REAL Bohemian
1:07:50 Zola's isolated artists
1:13:58 Myths: the core classical value
1:16:19 The coquette Romantic?

This episode featured Michael Pearce & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Michael Pearce is a writer, painter, teacher and curator, as well as the founder of The Representational Art Conference (TRAC). His book "Kitsch, Propaganda and the American Avant-Garde" uncovers one thing Lenin, Hitler and Roosevelt had in common:
A keen eye for art as state propaganda.
Avoiding the old-fashioned vs modern dichotomy, Pearce shows the cultural historical roots of employing both figurative and abstract painting to further political correctness.
Pearce traces it back to 19th century socialist thinking, and goes in-depth on the ideas of philosophers like Proudhon and Saint-Simon, as well as the protests of Emile Zola.
First and foremost, however, he shows how the the American government and a few wealthy families made Avant-garde art into the preferred art form of the 20th century, casting it as the antidote to the sentimentality of kitsch.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Intro
01:32 Understanding Kitsch and the Avant-Garde
05:01 Who is Michael Pearce?
08:06 The proto-Communist Avant-Garde
12:47 Proudhon's authoritarian state art
16:22 Proudhon on Courbet and aesthetic ideals
22:02 Courbet, Repin, and Russian realism
23:25 The Bohemian Avant-Garde
26:00 Emile Zola's individualism vs Proudhon
29:59 Capturing the Zeitgeist
33:50 The battle between Avant-Gardes in Soviet Russia
41:49 An individualist Avant-Garde?
42:43 Socialist Realism in the USSR and the USSA
45:36 Nazi art vs Roosevelt's path
47:46 Socialism and the art of the enemy
50:20 Hitler's qualities as a painter
52:19 Degenerate Art and House of German Art
57:25 The sentimental art of the enemy
59:45 The propagandist Nelson Rockefeller
1:02:24 The figurative/kitsch/Hitler connection
1:06:37 Greenberg's essay Avant-Garde and Kitsch
1:11:37 Nazi art: kitsch or bona fide modernism?
1:20:11 Primitive American art as the mother of modernism
1:26:33 Roosevelt & the marriage of USSA and MoMA ..

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Sturla Ellingvåg to dive deep into Norse mythology.
Ellingvåg is the historian behind @VikingStories.
He is associated with the Max Planck Institute in Germany, and is convinced that history has to be studied in a broader context than current fashion allows.

Part one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q81uTkxnsY
Part two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTXjioACKt8

We have previously released an interview with Ellingvåg on this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFeje-6fYmw

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Bridges, wells and guardians
02:04 Shamanic journey and disentanglement
08:40 Wisdom literature
11:10 Struggles and Loki as hero
17:25 Gods exposed to laws of nature
20:34 Odin: ferryman or Attila the Hun?
26:58 Odin & The spear dancer
30:00 Was Odin crucified or hanged?
32:40 What the next Ragnarök will look like
42:37 The 4.2k event
43:56 Religion and more totalitarian societies
45:54 Will your work survive future regimes? Bulgakov and Solzhenitsyn
51:39 The optimism of the Poetic Edda

This episode featured Sturla Ellingvåg & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.

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Created 4 years, 11 months ago.

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Category Arts & Literature

The Cave of Apelles is the long form conversation about culture, myths and philosophy. Guests on our show include classical figurative painters, composers, aesthetic thinkers and more.