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This episode was recorded on September 15th, 2021.
Chloé Valdary and I discuss The Theory of Enchantment, her personal brand of compassionate anti-racism. Chloé has been featured in Psychology Today and the NY Times. Her work with Theory of Enchantment attempts to bring compassion to diversity training and fight bigotry with love.
We covered a range of topics surrounding her practice, structural racism in the US, the civil rights movement, the best way to criticize one another, the power of Truth, white fragility, and what one could expect from her (rather unique) diversity seminars.
Find more from Chloé @cvaldary
https://twitter.com/cvaldary
& check out her program at
https://theoryofenchantment.com
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Timestamps
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[00:00] Intro
[00:30] Chloé’s background
[01:52] Why did Chloé want to talk?
[02:53] Reading Dr. Peterson’s Maps of Meaning in a lockdown
[03:38] What is the goal or focus behind Valdary's work?
[04:05] “Supremacist thinking occurs when a human being experiences... some type of deep insecurity within themselves" - Chloé Valdary
[04:49] “Enchantment theory says that we have to engage in a series of practices to be in the right relationship with ourselves… [and so] less likely to overcompensate and project supremacist attitudes onto others" - CV
[05:08] Jordan’s list of questions through Chloé's looking glass
[05:49] Sources of racism
[12:36] “There are problems money doesn't solve. It would be lovely if [that] produced full security in every aspect, but it doesn't" - Jordan Peterson
[12:57] Working with corporations on DEIS
[16:55] Debating the validity of lived experience
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