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Lordy's Fair and Unbiased™ P+ 2.2 Patch Ideas [Project M]
Universal Opinions
Keep tier list mostly the same
Knuckles
No character needs buffs (reverting nerfs is an exception here)
Patches should only change one or two things per character and be minor
Nerf defense
Nerf combo breakers
Nerf recoveries
Nerf tourney winner*
Nerf shields*
Remove grab armor*
* = Just an idea, might not be a good one
Nerf unreactable DI mixups on throws where big easy punishes are possible
e.g. reduce windows on DI mixups like Wario bite, DK cargo throws
Players should be rewarded for learning tech
Spacies should be strong
Fast, aggressive characters should generally be good
More fun for most people and viewers
Cheesy and viewer unfriendly characters should be bad but not unviable
Kirby
Dedede
Puff
Grandfather clause
Certain bullshit from Melee is hard to change without wrecking characters
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Character Specific Opinions
Knuckles
Nerf normals
Utilt - shrink hitbox
Nair - increase angle
Usmash - lower kb
Glide - reduce terminal velocity and/or accel
ZSS
Nerf bair/fair/uair
Slightly reduce aerial drift
Revert tether grab change
Uthrow/dthrow
MK
Reverse Jab (it's okay for some moves to be bad)
Uthrow/dthrow
Cape
Mewtwo
Lower weight by 5
Babyslap Nair/Fair
Wolf
Turn him into a glass canon
Keep everything the same but make him lighter and worse recovery
Or keep him as a fat spacie
Nerf punish game
Wario
Nerf horizontal uair hitbox
Nerf bite forward
Mario
Fireball - lower dam 5
Fair - lower kb 10%
UpB - remove invincibility
- increase startup
Falcon
Remove onstage side-b ledge snap
Marth
Revert dair to NTSC Melee
Ike
Increase QD startup lockout window
DK
Nerf Down B
Remove Bucket Brake
Nerf cargo fthrow/bthrow
Fox
Revert sour upsmash nerf
Revert side-b damage nerf
Lucas
Make moves easier to SDI
Sonic
Nerf dash attack so that it's easier to CC
Falco
Partially revert dair nerf
Lucario
Slightly nerf recovery
Squirtle
Dthrow - add endlag
Water gun - add startup
Aquarest - nerf kb
Dedede
UpB - lower kb/shield damage on falling hitbox (does like 35%)
- make the landing easier to punish
Nair - add endlag
Bowser
Fireball - timer from 10 to 15
Ganondorf
Utilt - remove hitbox from behind
- lower kb and/or shield damage
Bthrow - add startup or endlag (promotes corner camping)
Fthrow - increase angle slightly
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0:00 - 5:28: Intro and Universal Opinions
5:29 - 6:51 ZSS
6:52 - 8:03 Metaknight
8:04 - 8:23 Mewtwo
8:24 - 9:20 Wolf
9:21 - 9:40 Wario
9:41 - 10:53 Mario
10:54 - 12:05 Falcon
12:06 - 12:27 Marth
12:28 - 14:48 Ike
14:49 - 15:17 DK
15:18 - 16:36 Shiek, Fox, Pikachu, Pit, Lucas, Sonic
16:37 - 16:49 Roy
16:50 - 17:30 Falco
17:31 - 17:40 Diddy, ICs, Toon Link
17:41 - 18:24 Lucario, Snake
18:25 - 20:29 Squirtle
20:30 - 21:56 Dedede
21:57 - 22:17 Bowser
22:18 - 23:26 Ganondorf
23:27 - 24:00 Ivysaur
24:01 - 24:41 GnW
24:42 - 25:01 Ness
25:02 - 25:14 Olimar
25:15 - 26:09 Charizard, Samus, Rob, Peach
26:10 - 27:13 Link, Yoshi, Zelda, Jigglypuff, Kirby, Luigi
27:14 - 28:36 Knuckles
28:37 - 29:43 Closing Thoughts
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