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Ever seen Jackie Chan pull off a move you didn't even think was possible? What if that's cuz it WASN'T possible? At least, not with the weapon he started with.

I'm NOT talking about some straight up prop-swap either.
Yeah, a prop-swap cheat DOES happen for one shot in the Police Story 2 playground fight, but something far more clever is going on throughout the scene.

Jackie trips a goon from the JC Stunt Team and takes his steel pipe.
We'll call this prop "PIPE 1".
After some sweet martial arts choreography Chan throws PIPE 1 at an enemy and picks up PIPE 2.

But PIPE 2 is a few inches longer than PIPE 1. You'd think all the JC Stunt Team goons have the same prop, but they don't!
This allows Jackie Chan to pick up progressively LONGER pipes throughout the fight.

He throws PIPE 2 and disarms a baddie to get PIPE 3. How long is PIPE 3?
It's basically a sword!

By this point Jackie Chan is choreographing martial arts moves that wouldn't have been possible with PIPE 1. This allows him to easily add variety to his choreography AND give the audience a better view of the action.

That's right. If you're out to learn how to choreograph a movie fight you need to learn how to CAPTURE that action. The more space their is between the actors, the more options you have for clearly filming the moves.

Never caught Police Story 2 playground fight scene? Here's a rundown:

In this kung fu action flick, Jackie Chan throws down the gauntlet with an insane playground fight. We're talking top-notch fight choreography and a JC Stunt Team member going all out in every dang shot.

The scene kicks off with Jackie Chan's character, Inspector Chan Ka-Kui, duking it out with a bunch of nighttime baddies rocking cheap suits. Seriously, choreographing a scrap this tight is a skill.

Jackie Chan’s flipping around like a parkour champ with that slick, effortless vibe that'd make Fonzie proud (if that shark hadn't got him).

They're using Escrima/kali moves and getting creative with swings, s..

You're the only adult in a rug-rat rumble but you can't feed them knuckle sandwiches because the cops are watching. Uh-oh!
"Good thing I trained in Muppet style kung fu," you think to yourself. "They can't arrest ME if I hoodwink these hoodlums into kicking their OWN butts!"

You grab the biggest karate kid by the jacket sleeves and unleash some MARIONETTE MAYHEM!!!
Success!
Tallboy is tied up and he unintentionally mopped the floor with Chinese Milhouse.

But Old Man Fuzz is still staring and you've got five more Chinese children hurling haymakers at you.
You try to use those same jacket sleeves on the next karate kid to weave your way to victory, but you run into an unforeseen foil. Oh no!

There's not enough slack to attack! You try to tie up the rug-rat ring leader but all you achieve is a bunch of nylon nonsense!

How did Jackie Chan do it in The Karate Kid (2010) bully fight scene?
"Am I the one who's been hoodwinked?" you ask yourself as you think through the kung fu choreography of Jackie Chan's jacket fight.

Unbeknownst to you, Jackie Chan's style of Muppet madness was only possible due to a sneaky prop swap.
Between shots that tall troublemaker removed his normal jacket and dawned one with sleeves so long they'd make Mr. Fantastic blush.

Is this the first time Jackie Chan fight choreography has pulled the wool over your eyes with a between-shot prop swap?
Heck no!

Police Story 2 contains the best playground fight ever filmed! Forget winning via arm bars, Jackie wins via monkey bars!
But there's some metal pipe magic going on that makes the impossible possible AND allows the stunt team to keep more distance, giving the audience a clearer view of the action.

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Haven't seen Police Story 2? Here's a generic description that you shouldn't bother with:

Jackie Chan's Police Story 2 contains the most dynamic playground fight scene the Parks Department has ever seen. Exceptional movie fight choreography and a JC St..

Frank Mir blew my mind when he snared Brock Lesnar with a SPINNING SPLITS BREAK DANCING THING that he must have picked up at Jackie Chan Camp. He sunk in a knee bar, won the fight, and took a bow like it was a Broadway curtain call.
BLEW. MY. MIND.
Ever since that UFC 81 fight, I've been obsessed with finding creative ways of doing BJJ knee bars.

But I'm a fight choreographer, which means I get to use more than just my body - I get to use PROPS!
ANY props I want!
Want to have some fun?
Join me in Canada on this snowy December morning as I explore creative ways to do knee bars with the most Canadian prop ever - a hockey stick that I found in a snowbank down the street!

Since my grappling dummy of a partner can't stand up, we're going to skip the kneebar entry and focus on how to finish the BJJ submission with the hockey stick.

Let's see if we can take Frank Mir's finish over Brock Lesnar and John Wick-ify the ending. Creative BJJ fight choreography is a rare thing and I'm determined to do my part to make it a more common component of screen & stage combat.
Grab a cup of hot chocolate and join me as I take inspiration from the most memorable knee bar finish in UFC history and create some Jackie Chan style fight choreography magic.

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Ever imagine landing a cool move in a fight scene? FOOL!
Ever imagine yourself executing a sweet block in a movie fight? NO? INCONCIEVABLE!

You can see the EXTENDED VERSION of this video here - it's one of my favourites:
https://youtu.be/XyiKj9SfFHs

Every time a hit lands you have to wait for the character to recover; too many hits and the fight scene becomes more of a recovery scene. Literally. The audience will spend more time watching the characters recover than watching them actually fight.

This is what happens when a fight choreographer or martial arts film director thinks about hits instead of blocks. Don't believe me? Let's check out the ratio of blocks to hits in some rumbles that won Best Action Choreography at the Hong Kong Film Awards over the decades.

One of the things that makes fight scenes like the ones featuring Star Wars Rogue One’s Donnie Yen, Drunken Master's Jackie Chan, and other talented martial artists so entertaining to watch is how they treat hits versus blocks. If you're trying to figure out how to do action comedy, it takes more than random punches and a gag (the joke kind, not the ball kind).

Most people instinctively think of aggressive hits, huge kicks, and other brain damage inducing acts when thinking about elements of the best fight scene ever. Big hits and comic book style sound effects are flashy and fun, but components of the best fight scene ever they are not.

In fact, as productions like Jackie Chan's Project X-Traction and Wheels on Meals will prove, hits hardly matter at all. I know, weird, right? But take a look at these movie fight scene breakdowns. Fight scenes that are actually entertaining to watch for more than seven seconds lean heavy on the blocks, and showcase few actual hits. Why? It's not solely because hitting someone over and over again really isn’t that much fun to watch. It's because every time a character gets hit we have to spend time watching them fall down, recover, get back up, and get back into th..

I f-ing love talking about fight scenes, but sometimes I'm too busy thinking about them to notice what's going on.
What if someone new at the dojo wants to strike up a conversation with me and can't find an ice-breaker?
Not everyone breaks ice like Bruce Lee starting a union.

That's why I put martial arts buttons on my gear bag! (^_^)

They break more ice than Daniel-san in an Okinawan bar!

They get a laugh & show off my sense of humour.

And sometimes even lead to trading techniques!
"Is that Inspector Gadget? What's a gogoplata?"

It's like my gym bag gives off a custom martial arts Bat Signal! Hahaha

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OTHER BUTTON VIDEOS:

Street Fighter II:
https://youtube.com/shorts/Okzj15jAfPk

Mortal Wombat:
https://youtube.com/shorts/79-9G8RaOs8

Karate Kid / Cobra Kai:
https://youtube.com/shorts/etaTPHlRM80

UFC ring announcer Bruce Buffer:
https://youtube.com/shorts/2KWUADCFcVA

Inspector Gadget:
https://youtube.com/shorts/uc6Q8cNO9w4

Star Wars:
https://youtube.com/shorts/lxU4YWJmOPw

What Would Jackie Do:
https://youtube.com/shorts/qh90Da5yKMU

If you're wondering why I haven't uploaded in a while, I need to upgrade the internet at my new place (which is where the buttons come in!).
It currently takes 7 hours to upload a video, and the internet becomes useless while it's uploading. 😅🥲

Simu Liu's training for this claustrophobic throw down definitely paid off. The only thing doling out more beats than Simu Liu is the pumpin' soundtrack.
Shang-chi and the legend of the ten rings has finally hit the theatres and I couldn't wait to give my reaction to this full bus fight scene autopsy.

BTW here are the vids I mention at the end:
Falcon Bar Fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FYah81pSK8
Falcon ep 1 Fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pjPg04ONyk

If you haven't seen the behind the scenes footage of this action sequence allow me to fill you in. The bus is real, but the cityscape and traffic outside of the bus is all fake - it's blue screened in. This isn't a bad thing. In fact, it allows director Destin Daniel Cretton to pull off some innovative film tricks that make things like Matt Damon's Bourne Identity police fight look amateurish.
This bus fight scene reaction video will breakdown every cool detail that Destin Daniel Cretton tried to hide from us.
Shang-chi and the legend of the ten rings showcases some super fast martial arts moves by Simu Liu, but are they REALLY as fast as they look? This ain't no Shaviversity fight scene autopsy, it's a class at Fight Scene Film School!

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What do video games like World of Warcraft & Diablo III have in common with Jackie Chan fight scenes? They all love to take something simple and build upon it in tiers, creating skill trees. If you play Diablo and WoW, you already know what skill trees are and how they work, but how does Jackie Chan manage to insert them into his fight choreography in his best martial arts movies? It's time to delve deeper than a standard fight scene autopsy.

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THE VIDS I MENTION AT THE END CAN BE FOUND HERE:
Operation Condor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuDAp51IDjo
Donnie & Jackie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyiKj9SfFHs

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Admittedly, not every Jackie Chan kung fu flick contains a gorgeously executed skill tree. The guy was born in 1954, so it's understandable that now and then he's just going to play the old classics and phone it in, like he did in The Forbidden Kingdom when he fought Jet Li.
The Jackie Chan fight scenes in Operation Condor start with something simple, like kicking a gun out of a bad guy's hand. This is the root of the skill tree. The first branch on the tree will be something like kicking a gun out of a baddie's hand, the gun landing on the ground, and Jackie Chan going to retrieve it with some cool parkour move.
Toward the top of the skill tree will be move advanced, high skill moves like kicking a gun out of a baddie's hand, catching it mid-air, and using it to knock the enemy out all in one smooth motion.

If we compare Jackie Chan vs Vidyut Jamwal fight scenes we can see how detrimental it can be using the same big move in every movie. Having your fights feel the same in every movie or having them feel unique every time is the essence of this Vidyut Jamwal vs Jackie Chan comparison.

Will Jackie Chan vs John Cena in Snafu (2022) use skill trees? Man, I hope so. I want to see some advanced fight scenes in Snafu with John Cena, not watered down choreography like The Forbidden Kingdom (2008) brought to the silver screen.
جاكي شان is a mad man!
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What's the one thing animated fights can do better than any live action fight ever made?
If you're trying to learn how to film a fight scene and have delved into cinematography, you MIGHT have come across the idea of leading lines in photography.
Photography composition leading lines are secretly Monty Oum's specialty. When he created the RWBY anime for Rooster Teeth, the Ruby Rose Red Trailer was the first glimpse we got of what would become Rooster Teeth's flagship animated series.

Link to the book Photographically Speaking:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0321750446/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=15121&creative=330641&creativeASIN=0321750446&linkCode=as2&tag=fightscenefil-20&linkId=1260df7c77a04036a0e8cd9d3702dc68

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With a voice acting cast of Lindsay Jones (Ruby Rose RWBY), Arryn Zech (Blake Belladonna), Barbara Dunkelman (Yang Xiao Long), and Kara Eberle (Weiss Schnee), the RWBY anime series took off like a rocket. We're now up to RWBY Volume 8, "The Final Word" - the 106th episode. What better time to revisit the first episode than after watching the final episode (unless there's a RWBY Volume 9)?

The very first fight scene in the series shows Ruby Rose RWBY rising above the idea of the superhero landing (otherwise known as the superhero pose or the 3-point landing). Monty Oum OWNS all of those comic book fights with his use of leading lines a FIGHT SCENE, happening mid-move!
Sit back and take in this work of genius as I break it down for you.

This isn't some RWBY Chibi Sissy Fight, this is perhaps the best Ruby Rose fight in the entire franchise, and more beautiful than any RWBY AMV or fanfiction out there.

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The War: Rogue Assassin fight scene was a showdown I anticipated for a full year before it came out. I waited wide-eyed to see the mixing of their abilities create the coolest martial arts choreography that only these two could produce. A fight scene autopsy should be overflowing with hype and love, but...
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THE VIDEOS I MENTION AT THE END CAN BE FOUND HERE:
Tyson vs Seagal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpm4n44jn1E
Shang-Chi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aobJIeQDw3U

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Jet Li, fearless on screen year after year, and Jason Statham interviews oozing pure Fonzie-like coolness, there's no way you could throw these two into a room together and not get a work of art.
The only way War Rogue Assassin could go sideways is if the Jet Li vs Jason Statham fight scene was made withOUT them in the room at the same time.
Enter the composite shot - a filmmaking technique that I was a part of in a Canadian horror flick called 5 Years After the Fall. In fact, 5 Years After the Fall pulled off the special effect BETTER than multimillion dollar productions like Loki and Rogue Assassin. That's right - Jason Statham interviews never mention it (too busy discussing his workout schedule), but he and Jet Li filmed some of the fight via special effects to make it LOOK like they were together when they weren't.

Jason Statham 2021 movies will have more polished effects, unless Wrath of Man turns out to have the low, low budget of a 1980's Jet Li movie. Hopefully this is the last fight scene autopsy I need to do about Statham special effects.
But War: Rogue Assassin is no Wrath of Man and it's certainly no Fearless. Were we cheated? Let's find out. Time to drop out of Shadiversity and catch a class at Fight Scene University!

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When it comes to attention to detail, let's just say this is no Squid Game fight scene.
This Tom Yum Goong action more is like a masterclass in REVERSE attention to detail. "Did we already film this sequence? Who cares? Let's film it again and put both versions in. No one will notice."

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THE VIDS I MENTION AT THE END CAN BE FOUND HERE:
Hidden Tony Jaa video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMDMi24u3LI
Star Wars The Last Jedi: https://youtu.be/1kkWoOCnwAs

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My sarcasm is wrong in that last part though. No one DID notice. In fact, when my first fight scene autopsy pointed out recycled footage in Tony Jaa's bone breaking fight scene from The Protector, fanboys flooded my video with dislikes and negative rants.
That's when I learned that videos like Stuntmen React to bad & great Hollywood Stunts isn't about praising and criticizing fight scenes in ways that might reveal new details to viewers, it's about praising the fights they already love and criticizing the ones they already hate.
Fans already love Tom Tum Goong's Tony Jaa fight scenes, and they want to see breakdowns that justify that love, not challenge it. It's not about watching a fight choreography tutorial, it's about watching ten minutes of validation.
While Teluga & Tamil fight scenes are underrated, the bone breaking Tony Jaa fight is OVERrated. Stuntmen waltz in and do the same move 15 times. It shouldn't take a fight scene autopsy to reveal that to the world. Some sequences are filmed twice from the SAME CAMERA ANGLE with different stuntmen, and both shots are put in the fight scene. Repetition and dissonance are the name of this fight choreography tutorial. Wanna know how to direct and choreograph a fight scene? Well, not like this. Time to stop playing around at Shadiversity and catch a class at Fight Scene Film School.
You'd be further ahead copying an underrated Tamil or Teluga fight scene than this fight from The Protector.

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The only thing worse than paying good money for a bad fight is paying for a fight scene that never actually happened.
That's exactly the case when it comes to Steven Seagal vs Mike Tyson in the China Salesman. This movie is also called 中国推销员, Deadly Contact, and Tribal Warfare - take your pick, it won't change the crippling disappointment you'll feel when you discover how the wool was pulled over your eyes.
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BTW here are the vids I mention at the end:
Jet Li vs Jason Statham: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrSBKXQW1U0
Steven Seagal's Stunt Double: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgq13_k162M
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If you were hoping for a highlight to be added to the list of Mike Tyson knockouts, I don't know what to tell ya.
Mike Tyson is really there...some of the time. Where he's gone is a new episode of Mike Tyson Mysteries.
Steven Seagal is really there...a couple of times. He's green screened in so much that it's funnier than the Steven Seagal SNL episode. Presumably he was every bit as cooperative in Deadly Contact as he was on SNL.
Stuntman Kevin Lee probably has the most screen time of anyone in the fight, and you're not even supposed to notice he's there. Yep, he's aikido master Steven Seagal's double, and he's who you're watching any time you can't clearly see sensei Seagal's face. Don't get me wrong, Kevin Lee is great in this fight, let's give him the star credit though, not just stunt credit.
But, hey, Seagal's laziness is a gift to Kevin Lee, who got a major amount of fight work in with Iron Mike Tyson.
Maybe Steven Seagal was off writing Above the Law 2, which I hope secretly stars Kevin Lee after watching this fight scene. Hahaha.
Check out Kevin Lee's behind the scenes video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgq13_k162M

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Whether it's due to super powers or IDIOCY, fight choreographers & filmmakers need know these problems inherent in making the hero invincible.
The hero becomes a murderous villain;
The suspense & drama gets sucked out of the fight scene;
The story gets sacrificed for ONE insecure actor to look cool & tough;
The audience is bored to death until the "kryptonite" shows up.

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THE VIDEOS I MENTION AT THE END CAN BE FOUND HERE:
Everything Must Be Black In Our Fight Scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApKrJ8ORFnM

The Nightwing Fight Scene that Outsmarted Daredevil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEpr1qDlA9A
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When I watch Kickboxer Retaliation I feel like the source of invincibility is insecurity - a misplaced desire to "look tough" strips the fight scene of drama & suspense.
When it comes to a DC superhero fight like Batman V Superman, drama & suspense can be inserted into the fight scene in the form of kryptonite. None of the obstacles Superman faces are true obstacles because they cannot harm him. The result is the audience being indifferent until the true, green obstacle is introduced. While there IS drama once this happens, it's merely temporary; once the kyptonite wears off, we're back to the original problem of an invincible protagonist who cannot be harmed.
DC's Batman vs Superman tries to circumvent the invincibility problem by uses the ticking time bomb method. A third character like Lois Lane or Martha can be put in danger, & the action between Batman & Superman, unknown to them, has the potential to DELAY them enough that neither will be able to save Lois Lane or Martha.
The best superhero fight scenes have an excuse for the invincibility though - Tony Jaa's Ong Bak character magically becomes invincible partway through the final fight scene of the Muay Thai action film. Just like Kickboxer Retaliation, it results in a complete lack of drama and suspense due to the proof that there's no danger to the protagonist.
In Jackie Chan's First Strike (Police Story IV), the hero fights an invincible tough guy enemy. Jackie Chan vs Nathan Jones happened long before Nathan Jones did fight scenes with Jet Li and Tony Jaa. In these cases Jones is an obstacle that Jackie Chan, Jet Li, and Tony Jaa must overcome. Fantastic! It works!
Everyone wants to look cool like Keanu Reeves as Neo in The Matrix. But looking like a tough guy who can't be touched basically results in there being no movie. If Bruce Willis beat that yellow guy into a pulp in Sin City, only for the yellow dude to get back up like nothing happened, well, just watch the video essay. There's no need for me to write a paper essay on Sin City and stage combat. This martial arts video essay involves less reading.

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When it comes to looking more muscular than you really are, getting oiled up is only ONE side of the coin. What's the other side? Well if baby oil makes the bright spots on your skin brighter, what about the darks? Making the darks darker gives the illusion of more depth, and that can be achieved with Hollywood muscle makeup or even the standard bodybuilder spray tan.

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Did you know that Gerard Butler used muscle makeup to increase his muscle "mass" in 300? He was also lifting weights and doing workouts behind the scenes before every shot of the movie. But when it comes to movie fight scenes, fatigued muscles from behind the scenes workouts are essentially a safety hazard. Gerard Butlers workouts behind the scenes didn't negatively affect his acting performance in 300, but for lesser actors that time between shots might be better spent getting into character. Martial arts and action movie stars aren't exactly well known for their acting prowess, are they?

Bodybuilders spray tan so dark because they are allowed to darken their skin evenly over their entire body, but for fight scene legends like Jean Claude van Damme they can use movie muscle makeup to trace the contours of their muscles. Double Impact has a climax with Jean Claude van Damme vs Bolo Yeung, and to make JVCD look more impressive than the muscle monster that is Bolo, they applied layer after layer of muscle defining darkness.

Did they go too far or does Jean Claude van Damme have just the right amount of muscle makeup and baby oil in his Double Impact fight scene?

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If you want to become a fight choreographer you have to DEMAND a copy of the script to study the characters. Why? I'll show you.
With the new Spiderman No Way Home movie being released soon, I thought it would be an "amazing" time to revisit one of the earliest Spider-Man fight scenes:
Tobey Maguire Spider-Man vs Bone Saw McGraw (the Macho Man Randy Savage)
Consider this a Spiderman homecoming of sorts.

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THE VIDEOS I REFERENCE AT THE END CAN BE FOUND HERE:
Tony Jaa:
https://youtu.be/3IGH0qLnRZ4

Shang-Chi:
https://youtu.be/aobJIeQDw3U
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The Macho Man got the short end of the logic stick in this one, but I can't help but love 50% of this fight scene from the Sam Raimi films. Yeah, he was forced into a high school fight with Flash Thompson, but this Bonesaw encounter is the first time Peter Parker has SOUGHT OUT a fight. He's no black belt or MMA champ though - he's a clueless genius diving head first into shark infested waters. Even the walk to the ring is a nasty homecoming Spiderman has to trudge though. It would be a hilarious reveal if Spiderman No Way Home only contained the Tobey Maguire Spiderman 2002 at THIS naive stage, being plunged into the spider verse before battling any major villains. He'd be nothing but a comedic hindrance to Homecoming Spiderman Tom Holland and the amazing Andrew Garfield.

How do you choreograph a fight scene for a naive character like early Peter Parker? Well, Sam Raimi's Spiderman 2002 nailed it when it comes to the web slinger's side of things. Tobey Maguire's version has action choreography that perfectly mirrors an earlier rooftop scene where Peter discovers and tests out his powers.
But what about Randy Savage's Bone Saw McGraw and his side of the wrestling match?
This is where, if you're a filmmaker, you NEED to pay attention or your fight will go the way of Obi-wan Kenobi vs Darth Maul in The Phantom Menace.
Despite the Macho Man's character having very little screen time, the Sam Raimi version fleshes out the character really well. We learn enough about Bone Saw before and during the fight scene to see why the ending stinks worse than Spiderman 3. Let's hope that the homecoming trilogy doesn't take that same path with Spiderman No Way Home.

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Ever think you're about to watch one of the best female fight scenes in movie history, only to break out in laughter when the first punch is thrown? 💩👀 I don't mean some high school catfight, I mean a multimillion dollar Hollywood movie with professional fight choreography, directing, and editing.
How the hell does that even happen? Why do women suck at fight scenes in movies?

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THE VIDEOS I MENTION AT THE END CAN BE FOUND HERE:
Tony Jaa's Bone Breaking Fight Scene Proves Variety is Pointless in Choreography:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IGH0qLnRZ4

Jackie Chan's Fight Scene Skill Trees You've Never Heard Of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I98SfuyXxU

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If you're learning how to be a successful stuntman or stuntwoman, you need to learn more than how to merely take a punch, you need to learn how to THROW a screen punch.
How come you can watch a fight scene between two untrained actors and the MAN looks like he learned how to throw a punch in movies and the woman looks like even a catfight involves too much skill for her to handle?
There are a lot of things that can give away the fact that you're not the real woman MMA fighter your character is, but once a closer look is taken there's ONE stage combat mistake that I see again and again.
Lucky for you it's also the easiest mistake to remedy. Time to take a look at a piece of the action and give some fight scene autopsy classes.
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Fight scenes in movies and TV shows require a sense of realism, right? It's not enough to have girls pulling each others hair when it's supposed to be an epic battle scene movie. Any top stunt coordinator and stuntwoman will tell you that the fight choreography doesn't bring ITSELF to life. It takes dedicated actors who are willing to learn martial arts and train the fundamentals of how to make a fight scene look real.

Let's look at Rosa Salazar training for Robert Rodriguez's Alita Battle Angel. In the end she was throwing the perfect movie punches, but when she first started her training for the role she had what I call kitten paws.
Kitten paws are these awkwardly bent wrists that take you from looking like a film rioting, epic fighter to looking like a lucky cat pawing at the air.
These bent wrists are like giant glowing beacons to the audience. Your actors atrocious technique guides the viewers attention away from the fight choreography, detracting from the stage combat.

But real girl MMA fighters know that they only need their knuckles pointing at the target at the moment of impact. With their wrists straight their knuckles are going to be in the right spot at the end of their punches - when they "hit" the stuntman or stuntwoman.

So WHY does Rosa Salazar from Alita Battle Angel have her wrists bent like she's trying to touch her own elbow? She's not at the point where she can do fights or film riot scenes yet - her brain is still too focused on getting her fists in the right spots. But by the end of her martial arts training Rosa Salazar was able to play Alita Battle Angel with the high level of screen fighting / stage combat technique needed to bring the panzer kunst style to life.

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Would Jackie Chan ruin a stuntman's career just to make the Jackie Chan Stunt Team look good? Turns out the answer to that question is ABSOLUTELY!
And I'm not talking about spreading romours to insiders, Jackie Chan went so far as to direct and produce a promotional "documentary" called My Stunts, and dedicated a quarter of the run time to throwing martial artist Ron Smoorenburg under the bus.
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Once you hear this behind the scenes story you'll realize Jackie Chan's My Stunts is one of the most shameful self-serving documentaries you'll ever see.

Who is Ron Smoorenburg? He's the World Record holder for the highest kick: 11 feet!
Crazy, right? Who Am I was his first film, and these days you can find him all over Thai TV shows and movies - any time they need a white martial artists in Thailand, Ron Smoorenburg is the guy.

But when Who Am I came out in 1998, Ron had no reputation in the film and stunt industry, unlike his established fight scene partners Jackie Chan and Kwan Yung. Kwan Yung had already been in fight martial arts movies with legends Jet Li and Donnie Yen, having started as a stuntman in the 70's.

Jackie Chan COULD have chosen to use his documentary My Stunts to highlight how fight scenes are a team effort, with everyone using stunt doubles, prop legs, and anything else needed to create the best movie fight possible. Instead Jackie, director and producer of My Stunts, chose to fabricate a narrative about how the ONE outsider (Ron Smoorenburg) couldn't meet the standards of the JC Stunt Team.

What happened as a result? Watch and find out.

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Jackie Chan movies are known for their crystal clear action sequences. The moves might be fast and the props might be outlandish, but the editing and directing is always aimed at helping you to enjoy the fight rather than giving you a seizure from extreme close-ups.

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Fight scene reactions are strongly manipulated in the editing process. Do you want a section to feel slow to the audience? Want it to feel frenetic? A simple technique can make the same two clips feel slow or fast without the need to add messy, extraneous cuts.

Jackie Chan movies aren't always directed by the man himself. He often relies on masterful directors like Sammo Hung and, in this case, Stanley Tong. Tong might be the most advanced fight scene director in the world. I don't mean his choreography, but his actual filming and editing prowess; Stanley Tong is on another level.

The viewer's Fight scene reactions are in the palm of his hands. He makes the complex clear, the slow fast, the fast simple, etc. He holds the viewer's hand when necessary, guiding their eyes like an omnipotent NPC in an RPG. "Why does that villager know exactly what I'm looking for and where I should look?"

Fight scenes are a unique beast when it comes to filming. Directors, editors, and choreographers need a completely new set of tools for effectively guiding the eye in these types of scenes. This is that guide. These are those tools.

Spoiler: Star Wars Rogue One’s Donnie Yen was one of the best things about that movie. Disagree? Go watch Star Wars: Rogue One again (after you get home from seeing The Last Jedi, of course). I’ll wait. His Ip Man series is pretty rad too.

One of the things that makes fight scenes like the ones featuring Star Wars Rogue One’s Donnie Yen, Drunken Master's Jackie Chan, and other talented martial artists so entertaining to watch is how they treat hits versus blocks. If you're trying to figure out how to do action comedy, it takes more than random punches and a gag.

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Most people instinctively think of aggressive hits, huge kicks, and other brain damage inducing acts when thinking about elements of the best fight scene ever. Big hits and comic book style sound effects are flashy and fun, but components of the best fight scene ever they are not.

In fact, as productions like Jackie Chan's Project X-Traction and Drunken Master will prove, hits hardly matter at all. I know, weird, right? But take a look at the fight scene analysis above. Fight scenes that are actually entertaining to watch for more than seven seconds are heavy on the blocks, and low on hits. Why? Because hitting someone over and over again really isn’t that much fun to watch. What’s fun is watching evasion, a physical back and forth between the actors that isn’t just one sided. Blocks (and dodges and parries, but not Lego) add interest to a scene, allowing for length without boring your audience with the same move over and over again.

I’ll apologize in advance for reminding you (and then showing you, god I’m an ass) horrifically dull scenes like those in Avenging Angel, Lou Ferrigno’s Adventure Of Hercules II, and Jean Claude van Damme’s Lionheart to illustrate how important blocks are to your scene. There’s a block to hit ratio that directors and choreographers should strive to reach, one that is clearly illustrated by Lau Kar Leung’s Drunken Master II, Sammo Hung’s Wheels on Meals, and Donnie Yen’s Flash Point and Ip Man. These people know how to do action comedy right!

Scenes from the following films are featured, for better or for worse: Avenging Angel, Lou Ferrigno's Adventures of Hercules II, Sammo Hung's Wheels on Meals featuring Benny the Jet Urquidez, Lau Kar Leung's Drunken Master II, Gorgeous with Bradley James Allan, Jean Claude van Damme's Lionheart and In Hell, SPL Kill Zone with Jing Wu, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon with Michelle Yeoh, and Hero with Jet Li.

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How Bruce Lee Changed Martial Arts Cinema with his Revolutionary Fighting Rhythm:

Bruce Lee fight scenes have a certain special rhythm to them, captivating audiences and choreographers alike. Many of his scenes could be taught as marital arts choreography lessons – a perfect example of how to make a fight scene realistic, captivating, and a joy to watch.

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But Hong Kong fight scenes weren’t always all smooth moves and Jeet Kune Do rhythm. In fact, in the 1960s most were, well, um… let’s say there were marginally better than the seemingly unchoreographed bar brawls that populated Westerns at the time. Certainly not as exciting as lightsaber nunchucks. Still, they definitely lacked that sense of JKD rhythm we see so much in real life Jedi Bruce Lee fight scenes, as well as many others, in later years. I mean, even the actors seem mildly disinterested in what they’re doing. Instead of actively trying to, you know, fight one another, they seem more concerned with carrying out their vendettas against breakable objects and household furniture.

Later, in the 1970s, actors finally figured out that the purpose of a fight scene is to make it look like they want to hurt their opponent. Hooray! Sadly, they sacrificed fluidity for facial expressions and bodily contact. I mean, they’re great if you broke your metronome and all you have on hand to keep rhythm are a series of 1970s fight scenes, but not so much if you want to watch a fight scene that is more engaging, interesting, and full of rhythm.

Thankfully, Jedi Bruce Lee came along and influenced the genre with his sense of JKD rhythm. Fight scenes were transformed from metronomic hits into something better and more entertaining. Bruce Lee took that metronome and constructed a symphony of action around it, forever altering Hong Kong fight scenes for the best (and not just with his lightsaber nunchucks).

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I'm a tundra-treading fight choreographer in Canada. I love working in theatre because every fight is one long take, but I've also worked in film.
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