The Fall Into Meta-Consciousness | with Bernardo Kastrup (More Christ)

This is a repost of my second conversation with Bernardo Kastrup on the More
Christ channel and podcast. We discuss the question of different levels and
kinds of consciousness, agency, meta-consciousness, spontaneous
(unconscious) intelligence, intuition, the boundaries of identity, team
dynamics and how all of this tie in with the Genesis narrative. Original
video: Episode 88: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo Kastrup 2: Consciousness, Meta-
Consciousness, God, and Morality:
[https://youtu.be/_-aadYA6S6A](https://youtu.be/_-aadYA6S6A?t=0) My previous
discussion with Bernardo Kastrup: Episode 75: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo
Kastrup: Orthodoxy, Resurrecting the Western Mind, Body & Soul:
[https://youtu.be/usFMBUTkaLk](https://youtu.be/usFMBUTkaLk?t=0) =============
Timestamps: [00:00:00](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=0) \- Coming up next...
[00:01:04](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=64) \- Intro music
[00:01:30](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=90) \- Introducing the guests
[00:02:05](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=125) \- Reflecting on their last
conversation [00:04:42](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=282) \- The continuity
of identity [00:07:30](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=450) \- John Vervaeke:
Agency VS Consciousness [00:09:38](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=578) \-
Attributing private inner consciousness
[00:17:27](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=1047) \- Team dynamics
[00:25:53](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=1553) \- Is top-down more
fundamental than bottom-up? [00:30:24](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=1824) \-
Illusions below [00:35:46](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=2146) \- The
boundaries of identity [00:43:01](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=2581) \- The
angels serve Man [00:47:00](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=2820) \- Where are
angels and demons? [00:52:12](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=3132) \- Back to
the problem of multiplicity [00:57:27](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=3447) \-
True contradictions [01:03:22](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=3802) \-
"Unconscious"/Spontaneous intelligence
[01:13:01](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=4381) \- Drugs and trauma
[01:18:53](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=4733) \- Are other beings also meta-
conscious? [01:21:00](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=4860) \- The story of
Genesis [01:24:22](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=5062) \- What is meta-
consciousness? [01:30:47](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=5447) \- Meta-
consciousness in the Genesis narrative
[01:38:42](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=5922) \- Moral responsibility
[01:46:51](https://youtu.be/BUaVNrktCk4?t=6411) \- The Fall into meta-
cognition ============= \- The Symbolic World website and blog:
[http://www.thesymbolicworld.com](http://www.thesymbolicworld.com/) \- Merch:
[http://www.thesymbolicworld.store](http://www.thesymbolicworld.store/) \- The
Language of Creation (Matthieu Pageau): [https://www.amazon.com/Language-
Creat...](https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-
ebook/dp/B07D738HD8) \- Carving workshop:
[https://jona