https://www.aol.com/news/north-carolina-man-accused-stabbing-013630068.html
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/TJ-Hooker-s-Baton/5-2249063/
Posted: 8/22/2019 1:10:47 PM EDT
So what's up with that weird looking baton that TJ Hooker and the lovely Heather used? Did this go the way of the grappling hook? In this video I think a boomerang or a can of green beans would have worked just as well.
Baton Action
It seems to be the tool of the era. It this video the backup cop should have just shot the bad guy but seemed hesitant to use his weapon. I bet he was wishing he had a Glock.
Baton Twirl
But I just watched the show for the brodozer and Heather .
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:12:17 PM EDT[#1]
The PR24 baton, haven't seen those in a while.
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:14:42 PM EDT[#3]
In the hands of someone who knows how to use it, a PR-24 is an awesome tool.
Unfortunately, very, very few cops have the time or take the time to learn how to use one properly.
In an age where there is so much shit hanging off a duty belt that you have to gain weight as you age just to add acreage to your belt, the PR 24 was getting in the way. Or you had to take it off to get in a car. Woe be the guy who jumped in the car after a tussle and his baton shifted so when he sat down it flipped up between his legs.
The ASP fit better onto the new bat belt and you never had to worry about it getting in the way once stowed.
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:19:43 PM EDT[#4]
I trained with and used a PR24 in my early years. I liked it but eventually the PC crowd caused us to go the ASP which weighs more than my pistol. I don't even carry a baton any more.
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:24:47 PM EDT[#6]
I carried the PR24 for a few years and it came natural to me as I had practiced with many martial arts weapons in my youth, like the tonfa which the PR24 is basically a copy of it. I liked it. But yeah the ASP is much easier to carry than having that big PR24 or old school nightstick on your sam brown.
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:26:01 PM EDT[#7]
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https://i.imgur.com/MOYpvp9.jpg
House mouse Lt. getting some stick time...
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:27:49 PM EDT[#8]
I still have an expandable model in my police junk Rubbermaid tote. Never actually carried it, but considered it for a very short time
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:33:43 PM EDT[#11]
I liked them myself, always carried one. Great for takedowns but as said, needs constant practice.
An asp is essentially, hitting someone with a pipe. Not a lot of training involved.
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:35:39 PM EDT[#13]
In the hands of someone who knows how to use it, a PR-24 is an awesome tool.
Unfortunately, very, very few cops have the time or take the time to learn how to use one properly.
In an age where there is so much shit hanging off a duty belt that you have to gain weight as you age just to add acreage to your belt, the PR 24 was getting in the way. Or you had to take it off to get in a car. Woe be the guy who jumped in the car after a tussle and his baton shifted so when he sat down it flipped up between his legs.
The ASP fit better onto the new bat belt and you never had to worry about it getting in the way once stowed.
Until it gets clapped out and self deploys.
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:52:04 PM EDT[#26]
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Until it gets clapped out and self deploys.
Or until a guy forgets it's on his belt and responds to a fight in an active MRI room.
Hilarity and a broken rib ensued.
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:52:09 PM EDT[#27]
For everyday no actual use carry, the asp is much easier.
Only pr down side for me was we had the expandable that stayed on the belt. Being a lefty, I got it caught once and a while getting in and out and would break the clip / holster.
For use, I’d pick a pr all day.
I still keep one in ea vehicle.
Link Posted: 8/22/2019 1:57:02 PM EDT[#29]
When they first issued them, the diagram of where not to hit people had a few red spots (don't hit here).
Each following year, the red spots grew, and multiplied. To the point where just about all you could do was spank a shithead on the ass with it, or attempt a complex joint maneuver that required the person's cooperation.
A huge fucking joke. Completely useless on a combative or resisting person (within the UoF guidelines anyway).
Pepper spray ("Karate in a can") however, was a godsend. Once you took that can out, attitudes changed.
After seeing video after video of tasers not working, I'd still rather have the spray.
Still have one that was given to me by a friend years ago
My wife says she was the first female PR 24 instructor in GA. She was ship's MAA. They trained with one of the local PDs. Think it was St. Mary's. She didn't look as good as Heather Locklear, but not too far off back in those days.
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