Into a New World | with Chris Mastropietro

I sat down with Christopher Mastropietro, a trained philosopher who has been
working with John Vervaeke on various projects. They wrote a book together
called Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis and Chris
is currently helping John to turn his Meaning Crisis lecture series into a
book. In our conversation we discuss how these ideas about symbolism in a
postmodern world are changing our culture, what the new world will look like
and what it takes to get there. We also talk more generally about growth and
repentance, breakdown, grace, academia VS this online world, our upcoming
projects, and the process of doing creative work. \- Zombies in Western
Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis, by John Vervaeke (Author), Christopher
Mastropietro (Author), Filip Miscevic (Author):
[https://www.amazon.com/Zombies-Wester...](https://www.amazon.com/Zombies-
Western-Culture-Twenty-First-Century/dp/178374328X/) -Article: Love in the
Time of Covid, by Christopher Mastropietro:
[https://medium.com/@CJMastropietro/lo...](https://medium.com/@CJMastropietro/love-
in-the-time-of-covid-4f9f69bce94e) ========= Timestamps:
[00:00:00](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=0) \- Coming up next
[00:01:48](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=108) \- Intro music
[00:02:14](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=134) \- Start: the change of
perspective [00:06:05](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=365) \- Birth pains for
a new world [00:10:08](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=608) \- The old world is
still here [00:11:39](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=699) \- The role of Covid
[00:16:23](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=983) \- Is there a real need for
breakdown? [00:21:56](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=1316) \- 2nd order
despair [00:25:27](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=1527) \- Practising grace
[00:34:14](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=2054) \- Gaining maturity
[00:41:16](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=2476) \- How is Christopher
integrating this into his life?
[00:45:13](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=2713) \- Academia and philosophy
[00:53:48](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=3228) \- What is Christopher working
on? [00:59:58](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=3598) \- Jonathan's upcoming
book projects [01:08:27](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=4107) \- Interpreting
vs creating [01:14:19](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=4459) \- Staying in the
world [01:16:39](https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo?t=4599) \- Mystical creativity
========= \- The Symbolic World website and blog:
[http://www.thesymbolicworld.com](http://www.thesymbolicworld.com/) \- Merch:
[http://www.thesymbolicworld.store](http://www.thesymbolicworld.store/) \- The
Language of Creation (Matthieu Pageau): [https://www.amazon.com/Language-
Creat...](https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-
ebook/dp/B07D738HD8) \- Carving workshop:
[https://jonathanpageau.thinkific.com/...](https://jonathanpageau.thinkific.com/courses/st-
john-baptist) The Symbolic World podcast: \- Spotify:
[https://open.spotify.com/sho